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Bill Wilson has built and sold two companies, helped dozens of B2B SaaS founders fix their pricing, and started a brand-new business while walking through a market in southern Spain. He joins Jack to break down why most pricing problems are actually positioning problems, what scrappy founders get wrong about churn math, and how to start a testable company in a single afternoon with AI. Chapters: 00:00 - Intro and scrappy vs sophisticated 01:09 - Growing up across Canada and the entrepreneur in the family 02:40 - First company at 18, swearing off business, then getting pulled back in 04:35 - Halifax co-working scene and the accidental birth of Mindsea 06:38 - Collaborative consortiums, committed co-discovery, and lessons from trying to share work 07:48 - How SalesRight was born from an internal tool and got acquired by FastSpring 10:19 - What Pace Pricing does - end-to-end pricing strategy for B2B SaaS 11:31 - The most common pricing problem - flatline growth, churn math, and expansion revenue 13:46 - Why pricing confidence comes from conviction, not just data 14:40 - Four levels of pricing validation and how to get there scrappily 17:32 - Jobs to be done, customer interviews, and using AI to analyze them 22:43 - AI in hiring, irresponsible NOT to use AI, and democratizing knowledge 25:40 - AI native vs AI forward, human-led AI-assisted 27:51 - Starting a business in Spain in one afternoon with Claude and landing pages 33:01 - Committed co-discovery - 90 days, 50/50, and why stealth mode is dead 35:08 - Trust as the real moat in AI businesses 37:00 - Love them, help them, pay you - the three things that matter 38:01 - Lightning round: airport anxiety, business class, couch work, inbox zero Bill Wilson Links: LinkedIn: https://ca.linkedin.com/in/wdrwilson Company: https://www.pacepricing.com Blog: https://www.pacepricing.com/blog Jack Tompkins Links: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jack-tompkins/ Consulting: https://www.pineapplecf.com AI Analyst product: https://www.pineappleanalyst.ai/ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCalnj5yLU0ZH9y_tVl1J4ng

Adrian Betts is the founder of Xpandur, where he helps mid-market warehouses unlock hidden capacity and drive profitability without adding headcount, equipment, or new technology. With a background leading high-volume, tight-margin operations, he specializes in eliminating bottlenecks, aligning teams, and turning chaotic warehouse floors into consistently high-performing systems. In this episode, Adrian drops analogy after analogy - and every single one lands. Chapters: 00:00 - Intro and scrappy or sophisticated 01:04 - Growing up scrappy: Atlanta roots and a family of entrepreneurs 03:51 - Early jobs, bad grades in science, and learning to show your work 07:47 - Unlearning perfectionism and the baseball batting average mindset 10:37 - From aviation dreams to consulting: the 2004 start and 2017 restart 14:23 - Building a client base through word of mouth and water cooler credibility 20:46 - ICP evolution: why Adrian now says no to Enterprise and SMB 23:39 - How Adrian actually unlocks capacity in a warehouse - the full method 27:06 - Measuring performance with throughput rates, order accuracy, and cube 32:48 - Scrappy vs sophisticated: airports, inbox chaos, and the file naming system Adrian Betts / Xpandur: https://www.linkedin.com/in/adrianbetts/ https://xpandur.com Jack Tompkins / Pineapple Consulting Firm: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jack-tompkins/ https://www.pineapplecf.com https://www.pineappleanalyst.ai/ https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCalnj5yLU0ZH9y_tVl1J4ng

Piyanka Jain has been building AI models since 2002 - before "AI" was a buzzword. Today she's the CEO of AskEnola, an agentic AI platform that automates the entire CFO workflow: closing books, P&L reporting, MRR schedules, and investor reporting - all with high-fidelity output that doesn't hallucinate. In this episode, Piyanka talks about what 25,000 hours of building actually looks like, why she walked away from enterprise deals to chase mid-cap CFOs, and what "sophisticated in all the right ways" means when your go-to-market is still 100% scrappy hustle. Chapters: 00:00 - Sophisticated Where It Counts, Scrappy Everywhere Else 01:38 - Real AI at Scale: 7-Eleven ATMs and Kiva Donations 04:38 - Warrior Class to Business Class: Piyanka's Origin Story 07:45 - Transformation as the True Motivation 11:52 - What AskEnola Actually Does for CFOs 15:21 - 25,000 Hours, Multiple Pivots, One Winning Bet 20:15 - The SaaStr Slop Problem and the Trust Deficit 25:46 - When Do You Know It's Ready to Ship? 33:53 - Scrappy vs Sophisticated: The Rapid Fire Round 38:19 - Hustling Into the Right Rooms and Manifesting the Right Clients 44:24 - Productivity vs Presence: Slowing Down to Feel Worthy Connect with Piyanka Jain: https://www.linkedin.com/in/piyanka/ https://www.askenola.ai Connect with Jack Tompkins: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jack-tompkins/ https://www.pineapplecf.com https://www.pineappleanalyst.ai/ https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCalnj5yLU0ZH9y_tVl1J4ng

Drew Dowd has built his career walking into broken businesses and finding the one thing everyone else missed. As founder of D2 Operations Consulting, he works with early and growth-stage companies on revenue operations, team execution, and GTM strategy - and his take is that most business problems aren't execution problems. They're information problems wearing an execution costume. Jack and Drew dig into constraint-based thinking, when to document and when not to, and what it really takes to scale a company without over-engineering it. Chapters: 0:00 - Intro and the scrappy vs. sophisticated question 1:00 - Growing up in rural Missouri and early scrappy roots 3:35 - Cold door-to-door selling discount cards in high school 4:51 - First jobs: froyo, food trucks, and a lemonade-to-burger empire 7:34 - Data-driven operations lessons from a food truck mad scientist 11:05 - How a punishment hack in elementary school predicted a systems career 13:10 - Finding the real constraint: the outbound dialing case study 17:14 - You can't prescribe dosages until you understand mechanisms 19:13 - Centralization over complexity: the simple fix for broken ops 22:04 - SOPs, trust, and the Google Doc that scaled a company to $1M/month 28:01 - Struggle days, bad calls, and failing fast 31:36 - Launch at 50% or wait for 90%? Speed vs. structure debate 34:10 - Lightning round: scrappy vs. sophisticated habits 38:00 - ADHD, notebooks, and why pen and paper beats Notion 41:47 - Defining success: profit volume, ethics, and the stabilize-vs-grow mindset 44:49 - Data tells you where to look, not what to do 45:08 - How to connect with Drew Connect with Drew Dowd: https://drewdowd.com https://www.linkedin.com/in/drewdowd/ https://x.com/DrewDowd Connect with Jack: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jack-tompkins/ https://www.pineapplecf.com https://www.pineappleanalyst.ai/ https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCalnj5yLU0ZH9y_tVl1J4ng

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Donny Mashiach is the Founder and CEO of Warrior Group, a finance services firm helping founder-led, scaling businesses install stronger financial infrastructure through fractional CFO, bookkeeping, controller, and strategic consulting services. Donny started his entrepreneurial journey running a kosher food concessions operation at Wrigley Field before moving through investment banking on Wall Street - working on billion-dollar deals in industrials and beyond. Three years ago he founded Warrior Group and has since grown to 15 CFOs and 15 analysts, with a sharp focus on fashion and apparel brands scaling past $5M. In this episode, Donny and Jack dig into why the thing that gets you to $1M is exactly what breaks you at $10M, how to quantify every opportunity in your business, and what it actually looks like to build financial infrastructure that drives decisions - not just reports. Chapters: 00:06 - Scrappy vs. Sophisticated: Donny's Take 01:45 - Growing Up Entrepreneurial in Chicago 03:30 - From Investment Banking to Warrior Group 04:48 - Getting the Wrigley Field Contract in 3 Days 07:37 - From Zero to 35 Clients: How Warrior Group Scaled 10:36 - Why Founders Wait Too Long to Start 13:28 - The Scrappy Win That Felt Better Than $50K Contracts 16:22 - Fashion and Apparel: The New ICP 19:23 - What a Real Fractional CFO Actually Does 22:01 - Building the Roadmap from the Founder's Why 25:00 - Finding $1M in Obsolete Inventory from the Numbers 27:04 - Scrappy vs. Sophisticated Lightning Round 33:24 - Deep Work at 3am and Pushing the Business Forward 35:34 - Where to Find Donny and Warrior Group Guest Links: Website: https://warriorgp.com Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/donnymashiach Connect with Jack: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jack-tompkins/ Company: https://www.pineapplecf.com Pineapple Analyst: https://www.pineappleanalyst.ai YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCalnj5yLU0ZH9y_tVl1J4ng

From candy dealer to fractional CFO to AI SaaS founder - Joe Siegel, founder of Greenlight Financial Group, has been hustling since he was slinging pixie sticks and sodas out of his middle school locker. In this episode, Joe takes us through one of the wildest origin stories we've had on the show: dropping out of high school at 15, getting his GED, bartending through his 20s while waiting on financial aid, and eventually earning his way into UMD's top-ranked business school with a near-perfect GPA. He built a fractional CFO practice from scratch after 12 clients followed him out the door when he left his last firm - and then, just days before recording this episode, he locked himself in a room for four days and built Numvex: a full AI-powered financial dashboard SaaS for small businesses, using nothing but Claude Code, GitHub, and a $7/month server. The product is already converting strangers into paying customers on sight. This one is pure Scrappy energy from start to finish. Chapters: 00:02 - Welcome and introducing Joe Siegel 00:46 - Dumbest person in the room: Joe's operating philosophy 01:08 - Growing up in Bowie, MD with two entrepreneurial parents 02:34 - Lemonade stands, yard sales, and baseball card upsells 03:24 - The middle school candy operation (and the teacher who got paid in hush-money pixie sticks) 06:28 - First job at 13: auto mechanic shop, food truck payments, and "the room" 09:10 - Dropping out at 15, getting a GED, and why community college at 16 was a culture shock 12:08 - Panera, personal training with dad, and standing up in BNI rooms at 19 16:15 - The lawn care business: 12 yards, one push mower, and the economics that killed it 19:09 - The plan to wait until 24 for financial aid, near-4.0 at community college, and UMD Smith School 22:13 - Choosing accounting, the MMA coach's advice, and the Clever Profits run (6 to 50 employees, 15 to 250 clients) 24:15 - Leaving Clever, 12 clients calling in a week, and starting Greenlight Financial 27:04 - The iOS update that crushed online businesses and the client load rollercoaster 29:20 - Losing a long-term client and deciding to solve the value problem permanently 30:15 - Building Numvex in 4 days: AI-powered financial dashboards, fraud detection, and Claude Code 35:03 - The stranger who saw the Loom video and said "where can I pay you" 38:04 - Naming the product, talking to accounting firm partners, and what's next for Numvex 43:34 - Lightning round: three monitors, $1500 camera, and lights from a yard sale (full circle) Connect with Joe Siegel: Greenlight Financial Group: https://www.greenlighttoday.com LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jpsiegel/ Connect with Jack Tompkins: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jack-tompkins/ Company: https://www.pineapplecf.com Pineapple Analyst: https://www.pineappleanalyst.ai YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCalnj5yLU0ZH9y_tVl1J4ng

Scott Peterson walked onto the Oregon State basketball team by leaving messages on the coach's home phone until someone called back. He started his sales career bribing his way into meetings with Dunkin' Donuts. He launched his consulting firm in 2014 with a non-compete, no local network, and a city he barely knew. And somewhere in all of that, he built one of the most practical, data-driven sales frameworks for founder-led businesses you'll hear about. Scott is the founder of Carver Peterson Consulting and author of "Beyond the Founder Rainmaker." This one's got hustle, hoops, and hard-won sales truth from someone who has lived every chapter of it. Chapters: 00:03 - Welcome and intro - Scott rates himself as scrappy 00:58 - Growing up in Corvallis, Oregon - a dad who built custom homes and client relationships at the dinner table 03:49 - College, Oregon State, and the walk-on story - cold calling the coach until the callback came 07:14 - Moving to Boston cold and landing a career at Aerotech 10:10 - What Carver Peterson does and who Scott helps - the Founder Rainmaker problem explained 14:06 - Getting the first client and building the network from scratch in Chicago 18:17 - ICP evolution - how "anyone who needs sales help" gets you nowhere 20:52 - Scrappy marketing moves - donuts, dollar drafts, and freezing shorts in Boston 26:45 - Proving value to clients - data-first, scorecards, and the Revenue Compass Assessment 30:36 - Breaking out of the founder stall - two types of Founder Rainmakers and how to serve each 34:52 - The 80/20 client revenue distribution - the jaw-dropper data cut that changes strategy 37:27 - Lightning round - sports cards, steak dinners, inbox zero, and getting sassy with AI 47:09 - "Beyond the Founder Rainmaker" and what Scott is looking for next Connect with Scott: https://www.carverpeterson.com/ https://scott-ynirvf8i.scoreapp.com/ https://www.linkedin.com/company/carver-peterson-consulting-llc https://www.linkedin.com/in/carverpeterson/ Connect with Jack: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jack-tompkins/ https://www.pineapplecf.com https://www.pineappleanalyst.ai https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCalnj5yLU0ZH9y_tVl1J4ng