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Alison Jeffrey is the founder of Alison Jeffrey Consulting, a fundraising strategy practice working exclusively with nonprofits. After 25+ years in the sector, including years spent in-house, she left a permanent role five years ago to build a boutique consulting practice, working deeply with about 15 clients instead of chasing volume. On this episode, Alison and Jack dig into what it actually means to ask people for money for a living, from six-figure stethoscopes to the emotional weight behind a $10,000 ask. Alison shares the story of engraving a $100 stethoscope for a billionaire donor (and the handwritten note that came back), why she thinks "philanthropy is self-care," and how she built a practice around being the strategist in the room, not just the person who closes the gift. Jack and Alison also get into a lightning round of scrappy vs sophisticated questions covering everything from grades in school to her minimalist home office. Chapters: 0:00 Sophisticated or scrappy: Alison's 80-20 rule 2:15 Uncle Joe and the Glasgow china shop 5:52 The engraved stethoscope story 11:24 Growing up in a political but non-entrepreneurial family 13:12 The COVID balcony story that still gets brought up at home 16:00 Setting strategy vs doing the solicitation herself 18:13 Why fundraising isn't really a sales process 24:19 Quitting her job, losing her father, and landing her first client 30:25 Becoming known as the strategist, not just the fundraiser 32:41 Lightning round: scrappy vs sophisticated Alison Jeffrey's links: Website: https://www.alisonjeffrey.com/ LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/alisonjeffrey/ Jack Tompkins' links: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jack-tompkins/ Consulting: https://www.pineapplecf.com AI Analyst Product: https://www.pineappleanalyst.ai/ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCalnj5yLU0ZH9y_tVl1J4ng

Oscar Casanova is the founder of Eververdant Growth Partners, a fractional CFO advisory firm helping lower middle-market business owners make sharper financial decisions. Before starting his own firm, Oscar closed over $30 billion in deals across Goldman Sachs, high-growth startups, and Shopify - and he brings that same rigor to the small businesses that make up the backbone of the economy. In this episode, Jack and Oscar dig into Oscar's journey from growing up in Mexico to landing at Goldman Sachs on his fifth application attempt, why he walked away from the corporate path to build something of his own, and the "operating system" mindset he uses to run his life and his firm. They also get into how he actually wins clients (hint: it is not by chasing outcomes), what makes someone coachable, and a full lightning round of scrappy versus sophisticated questions. Oscar lands the verdict for himself by the end - you will have to listen to find out which side he falls on. Chapters: 0:00 Welcome and fun fact of the day 1:02 Scrappy or sophisticated - Oscar's answer 1:45 Growing up in Mexico and coaching basketball 5:01 What Eververdant Growth Partners does today 5:38 Leaving Mexico for the US in 2011 8:20 Scrappy rapid fire - Tupperware and the four meals 11:23 The "operating system" for life and fitness 12:00 Getting into Goldman Sachs on the fifth try 17:47 Finding Eververdant's first clients through curiosity 23:39 Surrendering the outcome instead of chasing it 30:10 Earning trust as a CFO advisor 35:04 Lightning round - office, inbox, and airport habits 40:04 Final scrappy versus sophisticated verdict Oscar Casanova: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/oscar-casanova-c/ Eververdant Growth Partners: https://eververdantgrowthpartners.com Jack Tompkins: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jack-tompkins/ Consulting: https://www.pineapplecf.com AI Analyst Product: https://www.pineappleanalyst.ai/ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCalnj5yLU0ZH9y_tVl1J4ng

Cris D'Annunzio believes the greatest enemy of performance isn't failure, it's drift. He's the founder of Mettle & Method, and his resume reads like four different careers stitched together: NFL player, Wall Street broker, Hollywood actor, and high performance sales coach. Along the way he built "The Standard," a philosophy built on a simple idea: everything decays without deliberate maintenance, so you measure where you are, set a standard, and defend it every single day. In this episode, Cris walks through an incredible family story that starts with his grandfather surviving a concentration camp in Italy and ending up as a NYC parks gardener, an 18 month cold calling grind on Wall Street where he dialed the phone 250 times a day for 18 straight months, and the honest, sometimes uncomfortable difference between chasing goals and defending standards. He also talks about his work with The CFO Project, training bookkeepers and accountants to become advisors who help small businesses survive past the five year mark. Chapters: 0:00 Scrappy or sophisticated: Cris weighs in 1:49 Immigrant roots and a hard beginning 6:07 What Cris does today 7:16 His grandfather's story from Naples to Brooklyn 14:43 From the NFL to Wall Street 19:36 250 dials a day for 18 months 24:13 Building "The Standard" 26:26 Goals versus standards 39:00 The one thing that makes a high performer 45:06 Lightning round: scrappy vs sophisticated 47:56 Replayer, The CFO Project, and closing thoughts Cris D'Annunzio's Links: Mettle & Method: https://www.mettleandmethod.com The CFO Project: https://cfoproject.com LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/cris-d-annunzio/ Jack Tompkins' Links: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jack-tompkins/ Pineapple Consulting Firm: https://www.pineapplecf.com Pineapple Analyst AI: https://www.pineappleanalyst.ai YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCalnj5yLU0ZH9y_tVl1J4ng

A bookkeeper client in South Carolina found a way to raise prices that clients were genuinely happy to pay. Here's how one custom dashboard changed his whole business. When a competitor started targeting his exact client base, he needed a way to stand out. This is what he did instead of a price war. Built a custom dashboard for every client in one place Turned it into three tiers - bookkeeping, bookkeeping plus dashboards, and full advising Fended off a direct competitor going after the same market Grew so fast he had to hire five new employees Clients voluntarily upgraded to higher priced packages Zero client churn since rolling out the dashboards Try for free - https://www.pineappleanalyst.ai/get-started Learn more - https://pineappleanalyst.ai Questions - support@pineapplecf.com

Mark Dunaway spent 30+ years leading finance and operations for some of the country's top residential homebuilders - and then walked away from all of it to build a fractional CFO market from scratch on the Gulf Coast. As Area President and Fractional CFO for FocusCFO, he covers coastal Alabama and Pensacola, FL, a territory with zero prior FocusCFO presence and a market that often can't distinguish a CFO from a CPA. In this episode, Mark unpacks what strategic financial leadership actually looks like for small businesses, why hope is not a strategy, and how he's doing it all the old-fashioned way: five to seven face-to-face meetings a week. We cover Mark's path from a Baptist minister's son in southeastern Kentucky to bagging groceries, doing a six-hour solo Sunday radio show, and eventually running divisions for some of the largest homebuilders in the country. Along the way, he learned that great CFOs don't just live in spreadsheets - they have to understand the field, the bank's perspective, and the owner's vision all at once. If you're a small business owner trying to figure out whether you need a CPA, a bookkeeper, or something more, this episode is the clearest explanation you'll find. Chapters: 0:00:00 Intro and Mobile Mardi Gras Fun Fact 0:01:23 From Kentucky to the Coast: Mark's Background 0:02:57 What Fractional CFOs Do (and the Three-Headed Monster) 0:07:38 CFO Mindset vs. Accounting: Two Different Worlds 0:12:31 First Jobs: Bagging Groceries and a Six-Hour Radio Show 0:18:54 Building FocusCFO's Gulf Coast Market from Scratch 0:24:11 CFO vs. CPA: Keeping the Plates Spinning 0:27:18 Breaking Goals into Weekly Wins - Hope Is Not a Strategy 0:30:56 Finance's Role in Sales Strategy 0:33:05 Lightning Round: Scrappy vs. Sophisticated Connect with Mark Dunaway: Mark's LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mark-dunaway/ Connect with Jack: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jack-tompkins/ https://www.pineapplecf.com https://www.pineappleanalyst.ai/ https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCalnj5yLU0ZH9y_tVl1J4ng

Sean McColl is the founder of Trusted Business Advisors in Charleston, South Carolina. After more than 20 years as a top-performing sales leader - selling pagers in Washington, DC during the crack epidemic, building accounts at AT&T, and growing a promotional products company from a tiny startup to a successful acquisition - he went independent as an outside advisor. Today he works with owners, successors, and key leaders to bring the objectivity that insiders can't generate on their own, helping businesses find their blind spots and build sustainable growth. In this episode, Sean takes us from early childhood hustles - cutting lawns at 11, running a babysitting operation with his sister, and learning hard lessons as a 14-year-old dishwasher at an Italian restaurant - all the way through decades of high-stakes sales leadership and into what it really means to be a "business therapist" who helps CEOs sleep better at night. He shares why the very traits that make great entrepreneurs successful are often what hold them back as they scale, how the Who Not How principle shows up in his daily advisory work, and why an outside perspective is the most undervalued asset any growing business can have. Chapters: 0:00:00 Welcome + Sean's Entrepreneurial Roots 0:04:13 From Lawn Mowing to Babysitting Dynasties 0:07:02 First Real Job and the Restaurant Reality Check 0:09:58 Selling Pagers in 1990s DC - Scrappy by Necessity 0:18:26 Building Trusted Business Advisors 0:21:05 Coaching Owners Out of Their Own Way 0:29:17 Who Not How - Building the Right Team 0:31:32 The "Business Therapist" + Proving Value 0:34:31 Scrappy vs. Sophisticated Lightning Round 0:40:14 What's Next + Final Thoughts Connect with Sean McColl: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/seanmccoll1/ Website: https://trustedbizadv.com/ Connect with Jack Tompkins: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jack-tompkins/ Consulting: https://www.pineapplecf.com AI Analyst Product: https://www.pineappleanalyst.ai/ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCalnj5yLU0ZH9y_tVl1J4ng

Marcus Gaughan started his entrepreneurial journey at 19 with a portable eye therapy device that nearly launched with Iris as a strategic partner - until a single email ended it all. From there he built Minds on Fire through incubators, a CNC manufacturer marketplace, and a pandemic-era pivot that took him from Southern Ontario to investor conferences in the Middle East - picking up a client who happened to be the son of the governor of Riyadh along the way. Today Marcus runs Minds on Fire as a scaling agency focused on agentic AI, building custom tools that help businesses save time (defensive AI) and drive growth (offensive AI). His take: the real money is in the defensive side, and getting AI into your business doesn't have to break the bank or replace anyone. He's building a self-serve agent platform to prove it. Chapters: 0:00:00 Welcome & Meet Marcus Gaughan 0:00:36 Scrappy or Sophisticated? 0:02:35 Growing Up in Ontario's Startup Scene 0:05:36 First Startup: Portable Eye Therapy Device 0:11:01 A Decade of Business Partners 0:21:00 2020 Reset: Pandemic Pivot 0:24:38 Fake It Till You Make It in Bahrain 0:33:39 Minds on Fire: Agentic AI Agency 0:37:19 Offensive vs. Defensive AI 0:39:15 Lightning Round Connect with Marcus: https://agent.mindsonfire.ca/ https://www.linkedin.com/in/marcusgaughan/ Connect with Jack: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jack-tompkins/ Consulting: https://www.pineapplecf.com AI Analyst Product: https://www.pineappleanalyst.ai/ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCalnj5yLU0ZH9y_tVl1J4ng

Priscilla McKinney is the CEO ("Momma Bird") of Little Bird Marketing, a LinkedIn influencer, a trained cultural anthropologist, and the host of her own podcast, 450-plus episodes deep. She joins Jack to unpack her take on the show's central question: you personally have to be scrappy, but your systems need to be sophisticated, meaning simple, clear, and pared down, not loaded up with bells and whistles. That distinction runs through everything from how she sets up her team's scope of work to how she rebuilt her agency from the ground up. From selling her mom's tulips door to door at age seven to surviving a 2011 tornado that leveled a third of her town, followed three weeks later by her studio burning to the ground, Priscilla has bet on herself again and again. She talks candidly about nearly losing the business three times, what entrepreneurship really costs a marriage and a family, and why being busy is not a badge of honor. Then Jack hits her with a scrappy vs sophisticated lightning round covering credit card timing games, scope creep, and the messiest client mistakes. Chapters: 0:00 Welcome and the Scrappy vs Sophisticated Question 3:23 Building a Team That Runs Itself 6:13 Born to Sell: From Tulips to the Drive-Thru 14:56 From Credit Card Hacks to Little Bird Marketing 19:04 Rising From the Ashes After the Tornado 20:19 Meet C Suite Stacy, the ICP That Never Changed 22:47 The Real Cost of Betting on Yourself 31:22 Boundaries, Trust, and the Entrepreneurial Curse 35:28 Lightning Round and Office Confessions 43:19 Final Verdict and Where to Find Priscilla Priscilla McKinney: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/priscillamckinney Website: https://littlebirdmarketing.com Resources and Freebies: https://littlebirdmarketing.com/resources Priscilla's Podcast: https://podcast.littlebirdmarketing.com/ Jack Tompkins: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jack-tompkins/ Consulting: https://www.pineapplecf.com AI Analyst Product: https://www.pineappleanalyst.ai/ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCalnj5yLU0ZH9y_tVl1J4ng